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elsonic Jun 26, 2008 4:08 AM

haha sur le rendu ils ont foutu une calèche.. pauvre cheval dans cette montée.

Graupner, un gros hôtel dans Griffintown, c'est pas un peu tire-dans-le-pied? perso, quand je vais dans une ville, je veux être au centre du centre (ou dans un quartier vivant bien desservi), pas dans un secteur post-industriel.

Rico Rommheim Jun 26, 2008 4:09 AM

Si je me trompe pas la limite de hauteur dans de coin est de 120m, ou meme peut-etre 80m. La seul raison pour que le 400 Sherbrooke grimper comme un steroid c'est a cause qu'il respecter le (stupid) plan d'urbanisme. I predict a long agonizing seance d'information, de consultation and changes and height cutbacks.

Rico Rommheim Jun 26, 2008 4:36 AM

Nevermind NIMBYS, I was reading the CBC article about this project and this is the commentary so far, really where do people come up with this?

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With all due respect to Waldorf-Astoria (why is EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE iconic) these days, aren't there enough hotels in Montreal? And for all kinds of budgets?
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ElisabethMenten: I absolutely agree with your statement, it's so not needed here..
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digitboy Jun 26, 2008 4:49 AM

hahaha! ridicule, on dirait bien qu'on pourra jamais passer à côté de ça ! :shrug:

Rico Rommheim Jun 26, 2008 5:04 AM

c'est ridicule en effet, c'est quoi cette mentalité? "On en a pas besoin, donc ca na pas ca place ici!" mais bordel ce n'est pas comme ca que l'on doit progresser!

Laurent Jun 26, 2008 6:51 AM

^ ben d'accord avec toi rico.

qu'est-ce que nous, Montréalais, pouvons bien perdre avec l'arrivée d'un nouvel hôtel? même si ça tourne mal leur affaire, c'est leur argent, pas le nôtre. et si c'est mauvais pour les hôtels qui sont déjà ici, honnêtement ce n'est pas de nos affaires car la majorité des hôtels ici appartiennent à des intérêts étrangers anyway. Quant aux jobs, ben un nouvel hôtel ne peu qu'augmenter le nombre de jobs totales en hôtellerie à Mtl, même si certains hôtels risqueraient de perdre quelques jobs avec l'ouverture du W-A.

Moi j'trouve que cette nouvelle (qu'elle se réalise ou non) est tout simplement fantastique!!!! Juste le nom Waldorf-Astoria est teeeellement cool. Ca sonne comme un nom qui sort d'un conte mythique, genre Knights of the Round Table ou Lord of the Rings . . . 'and finally the brave knight entered the lost kingdom of Waldorf-Astoria. . . ' (you know what I sayin'?). En plus ce serait le premier au Canada. Tabarnouche. Et comme si ce n'était pas assez comme ça, en plus il vont mettre rien de moins que $200 millions de dollars canadiens (qui valent même un peu plus que des $ US) là-dedans. Ca risque d'être quelque chose cette affaire là.

Waldorf-Astoria . . .c'est tellement cool ce nom là. Wâââldorf Astôôôriaaaa. c'est tellement cool. moi j'vais aller coucher là un soir juste parce que ça s'appelle comme ça

vic29594 Jun 26, 2008 1:40 PM

En plus il n'y a que 5 hotels de cet compagnie dans le monde , alors c'est cool qui mètre la sixième à Montréal. Et il y a seulement une seule Waldorf=Astoria Résidence au monde et elle est à Beverly Hills, et la deuxième sera à Montréal.:cheers:
Et en passant , l'investissement sera de 200 m US pas can.

MolsonExport Jun 26, 2008 1:55 PM

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Originally Posted by digitboy (Post 3635763)
Publié par Martin_MTL@ mtlurb, un vieux rendu du "1500 sherbrooke" :

http://www.chronikdope.com/images/1500sherbrooke.jpg

It's back?!?!?

Arthur Jun 26, 2008 3:30 PM

Waldorf à Montréal CONFIRMED!
 
:banana:

Waldorf=Astoria planned for Montreal
To be modelled on N.Y. namesake; $200-million hotel on Sherbrooke St. will feature 250 guest rooms and 76 residences
MIKE KING, The Gazette
Published: 8 hours ago
Already experiencing its biggest hotel-building boom since the heady days of Expo 67, Montreal can now add the famed Waldorf=Astoria name to its inventory.

Local real estate company Monit Investments will spend $200 million developing and building the Waldorf=Astoria Hotel & Residence Montreal on what is now a parking lot it owns near Guy and Sherbrooke Sts.

The 32-storey hotel, consisting of twin towers, will be modelled on its namesake on New York City's Park Ave.


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Font:****Like the Manhattan hotel, the Montreal version will be luxuriously appointed, featuring 250 guest rooms, 76 residences, nearly 1,400 square metres of ballroom and meeting space, signature restaurants, bars and a spa and fitness centre.

While most of the building will face Guy, an access onto Sherbrooke will give the hotel the cachet of an address on that more prestigious street. Being set behind the Medical Arts Building means the new building will not be subject to the 60-metre height restriction in effect for new buildings on Sherbrooke W.

The Sherbrooke access became available in 2003 when a fire destroyed three 19th-century row houses next to the Medical Arts Building.

"Montreal is a culturally rich city that is on the forefront of design, art, entertainment, culinary achievements and other pillars that define a great city, making Montreal an ideal fit for the Waldorf=Astoria Collection," said Alex Kotler, Monit chairman.

Waldorf=Astoria spokesperson David Semanoff said in a phone interview from New York that the flagship of the upscale chain will manage the Montreal property as well, to ensure the Waldorf brand and standards are maintained.

Pierre Bellerose, vice-president of public relations and marketing for Tourisme Montréal, noted that the Waldorf=Astoria is part of the city's "hotel mini-boom."

Bellerose has compiled a list of 17 substantial hotel projects between 2006 and 2009 that have been completed or are on the boards, not including the Waldorf=Astoria. In total, more than 2,500 rooms and 100 suites and condos are being added to the city's hotel inventory.

"There are a lot of smaller projects (under way), too, and more to be announced soon," he said without giving any further details.

According to Bellerose, the latest boom, "not seen for more than 40 years," started in the early 1990s with half a dozen big projects like the Hotel InterContinental Montreal, followed by the introduction from 2001 to 2003 of several boutique hotels around Old Montreal.

The projects have been more corporate since 2006, and Bellerose attributes that to stable interest rates and increasing international interest in North America.

mking@thegazette.canwest.com

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So what's with the ' = ' in Waldorf=Astoria?

On March 24, 1893, New York millionaire William Waldorf Astor opened the 13-storey Waldorf Hotel on the site of his former mansion at Fifth Ave. and 33rd St. It had electricity throughout and private bathrooms in many guest chambers - two of a long list of Waldorf firsts.

The Waldorf was joined four years later by the 17-storey Astoria

Hotel, erected on an adjacent site by Waldorf's cousin, John Jacob Astor IV.

A corridor built to connect the two buildings became an enduring symbol of the combined Waldorf and Astoria hotels and remains represented by the equal sign in the name Waldorf=Astoria.

The original Waldorf=Astoria closed in 1929 after decades of playing host to distinguished visitors from around the world. It paved the way for a reincarnation 15 blocks north on Park Ave.

When the current hotel opened on Oct. 1, 1931, it was the world's largest and tallest hotel and is still one of the world's largest art deco buildings.

montrealgazette.com

Photo Gallery

Immerse yourself in a gallery of Montreal's luxury hotels through the ages.

17 major hotel projects in Montreal (2006-09)

Hampton Inn & Suites

April 2006 (55 rooms)

Courtyard Montreal Airport

August 2006 (160 rooms)

Marriott Residence Inn

Montreal Airport

August 2006 (170 rooms)

Hôtel VIP St-Jacques

November 2006 (40 suites)

Hôtel Dauphin Montréal

December 2006 (72 rooms)

Novotel Montréal Aéroport

February 2007 (120 rooms)

Hôtel Nelligan

Expansion in May 2007

(44 rooms added)

Hôtel Candelwood Suites

Montréal, August 2007

(136 rooms)

Embassy Suites

August 2007 (210 rooms)

Le Crystal de la Montagne

April 2008

(131 rooms and 59 condos)

Hôtel Aloft

de l'Aéroport de Montréal

June 2008 (136 rooms)

Marriott Fairfield Inn & Suites Montréal Aéroport

June 2008 (162 rooms)

Hilton Garden Inn

July 2008 (216 rooms)

Marriott

New airport hotel in February 2009 (275 rooms)

Hôtel Westin Montréal

February 2009 (400 rooms)

Hôtel Ritz-Carlton de Montréal Reopening June 2009 (130 rooms/suites, 35 residential apartments and 15 apartment suites)

Hôtel Gare-Viger

Spring 2010 (225 rooms)

Laurent Jun 26, 2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vic29594 (Post 3636833)
Et en passant , l'investissement sera de 200 m US pas can.

T'as ben raison, je n'avais pas remarqué cette précision dans ton 1er post.

En passant, bienvenue sur le forum!! :cheers:

cityguy Jun 28, 2008 12:45 PM

Nice to see this building back in action,it's been on hold for several years.

Grumpy Jun 28, 2008 1:36 PM

A 2nd new proposal for MTL....has been a very long time ago.
Is this a final design cause this one is still the first rendering I saw years ago?

Rico Rommheim Jun 29, 2008 2:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 3635536)

This one isn't bad, though - it's an interesting design, and it relates well to the historic building in front of it. It's obviously inspired by the Waldorf's original building in NYC, but it also looks like a doublemint version of One Atlantic Center in Atlanta.

don't worry, the design here is an old design for a totally different project altogether. I guarantee the design will change.

Lyle Jun 30, 2008 4:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 3636858)
It's back?!?!?

The render actually does resemble, somewhat, the New York original: http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/MID032.htm

elsonic Jun 30, 2008 6:16 AM

le W=A de Midtown Manhattan est un chef-d'oeuvre art-déco, pas un Roc Fleury puissance 4.

Rumors Jun 30, 2008 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyle (Post 3643782)
The render actually does resemble, somewhat, the New York original: http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/MID032.htm

Thats really amazing. :)

MolsonExport Jun 30, 2008 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyle (Post 3643782)
The render actually does resemble, somewhat, the New York original: http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/MID032.htm

Indeed, it does. I was lucky to stay at the WA in New York City back in the early 1990s. What a place.

Laurent Jul 1, 2008 3:26 AM

ta-bar-nouche!!! this thing is freakin' huge!! it says it's 'only' 47 storeys high, but considering its massive width (and it's 20 storey base!) it is clearly an enourmous building.

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/...orfastoria.jpg

the nickname "Gotham" is definitely appropriate for this city

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/MID032G.jpg

j'espère que le W=A de Mtl ne sera pas une version cheesy de l'impressionant chef d'oeuvre New Yorkais

maisonneuve Jul 1, 2008 11:21 PM

It's good to see some private investment in Montreal. I just came back from Vancouver and I'm never been more impressed with a city. Vancouver is an extremely affluent city with an abundance of private investment.

MARTY Jul 5, 2008 9:52 PM

What if one of the other planned hotels is a Trump Tower?????
 
Maybe it'll happen next week...the Donald might be in town for the seminars or it may be one of his associates...but let's imagine after Waldorf why not a Trump Tower for Montreal....hmmmm....

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I have one extra ticket for the seminar. You can chose among the following possible dates:

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