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Old Posted Jan 24, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Is there nowhere to build it because of how LM is mostly residential space now?

Lower Manhattan is a small and tightly built section of Manhattan. There are no vacant lots to build office, particularly of the kind you see going up in specific areas like Hudson Yards and Midtown East. It’s why I’ve always said the site of tower 5 should be reserved for office. Residential can squeeze in just about anywhere, including new construction and conversions.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2024, 8:53 PM
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Lower Manhattan is a small and tightly built section of Manhattan. There are no vacant lots to build office, particularly of the kind you see going up in specific areas like Hudson Yards and Midtown East. It’s why I’ve always said the site of tower 5 should be reserved for office. Residential can squeeze in just about anywhere, including new construction and conversions.
Unfortunately local council members pushed for tower 5 to consist of majority housing so tower 5 being reserved for office is probably not happening without a major outcry and attempts at stalling construction of tower 5 from them.

Back to the design aspect of this building, the layout of the site makes it difficult to envision what design would best attract tenants over other destinations in the city. As you and others have discussed before, any twin effect of One WTC and Two WTC would not be possible given the current layout of the site.

It's also not likely that Two WTC would be able to be built taller than One WTC's rooftop.

Many people are imo too fixated on the diamond design that is not likely making a reappearance as a prospective design any time soon.

So what design do you think would best attract tenants from the perspective of creating a formidable skyline? Because other than changing the footprint of the tower to make it wider and building an essentially rectangular building not unlike 3 WTC and 4 WTC, it's tough to see what design is going to make the site stand out in a unique way. Redesigns highlighting the possible geometric complexity and terraces of the future tower don't look like they are leaving a lasting impression on tenants. The address and site itself doesn't appear to be a unique enough selling point. Even amenities and themes focused on sustainability and flexible workspace don't seem like they are winning prospective tenants over. All this time too, Silverstein Properties only drops vague hints at some interest from tenants, only for that news to fade and no further development to come of it after.
     
     
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