(YEG) Edmonton International Airport Part 4 (October 2023) - Page 13

ace.yyc · #**241** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 9:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

I am of the opinion that WJ would be best to serve Edmonton with a LGW given our demo and population.

It's now confirmed internally that the 2 undelivered painted WS 787 frames are not coming. If they get more, it will be new frames or used frames from elsewhere, so it's gonna be a while.

WS is currently struggling to operate the currently planned 787 sked with the current 7 frames.

Therefore, there is zero chance of transatlantic service from YEG by WS for the foreseeable future.

ace.yyc · #**242** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 9:10 AM**

duplicate post.

Coldrsx · #**243** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by ace.yyc

It's now confirmed internally that the 2 undelivered painted WS 787 frames are not coming. If they get more, it will be new frames or used frames from elsewhere, so it's gonna be a while.

WS is currently struggling to operate the currently planned 787 sked with the current 7 frames.

Therefore, there is zero chance of transatlantic service from YEG by WS for the foreseeable future.

More of a wish than anything, but LGW would be an ideal destination for YEG at some point in the future.

ace.yyc · #**244** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:24 PM**

First inbound from ATL about to land. Loads are good. Shame about the lack of pre-clearance on the eastbound (because redeye), but it's nice to see it launch as daily from the get go.

Rocket252 · #**245** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:41 PM**

^ Would the Atlanta hub allow easier connections to South America?

Coldrsx · #**246** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

^ Would the Atlanta hub allow easier connections to South America?

Certainly more options, but Toronto still has a decent allotment that permits you avoiding the US.

ace.yyc · #**247** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

^ Would the Atlanta hub allow easier connections to South America?

Better than nothing, but it's not ideal as WS gets you to ATL in early morning.

BOG would be perfect, but EZE/GRU/GIG/SCL all leave ATL in the evening. LIM is mid-afternoon.

For deep South America you're either sitting in ATL for 12+ hours or better options could be YEG-MSP-ATL-EZE or the dreaded cowtown routing of YEG-YYC-ATL-EZE... or maybe a YEG-DEN-IAH-EZE type of thing. Damn YEG really needs IAH back.

In any case it's just a long routing in general, South America timing is rough for Albertans no matter what.

Rocket252 · #**248** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 4:59 PM**

^ Thanks.

Sounds like IAH would be the preferred Hub - hoping for its return.

ace.yyc · #**249** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

^ Thanks.

Sounds like IAH would be the preferred Hub - hoping for its return.

Cold is right about YYZ; by far the best option for GRU is YEG-YYZ-GRU or YEG-YUL-GRU on AC. The YYZ flight continues on to EZE as well.

CMD UW · #**250** Posted **May 4, 2024, 2:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

^ Thanks.

Sounds like IAH would be the preferred Hub - hoping for its return.

Yup...

Coldrsx · #**251** Posted **May 4, 2024, 4:35 PM**

IAH is the one key missing link right now and from another site has the highest number of underserved passengers by destination apparently.

hollywoodcory · #**252** Posted **May 13, 2024, 3:22 PM**

KL is increasing to 5x weekly on a mix of 789/772 this winter.

s211 · #**253** Posted **May 13, 2024, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

KL is increasing to 5x weekly on a mix of 789/772 this winter.

Starting when?

Rocket252 · #**254** Posted **May 13, 2024, 4:06 PM**

Great to hear. We are flying with KLM next month. They have great service and a seat sale on now - even their business is reduced by 50% to some cities.

Rocket252 · #**255** Posted **May 13, 2024, 4:14 PM**

Flights on Mon,Tuesday,Thur,Sat and Sun.

I see flights showing on the last week of Nov but could be sooner. As mentioned they have a seat sale on now. Promo flights for certain days.

hollywoodcory · #**256** Posted **May 13, 2024, 5:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Starting when?

October 27 - beginning of winter schedule.

Mon, Tue, Sun is 789
Thu, Sat is 772

s211 · #**257** Posted **May 13, 2024, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

October 27 - beginning of winter schedule.

Mon, Tue, Sun is 789
Thu, Sat is 772

Dang! Well, dang for me. Hooray for everyone else flying from Oct 27 onward.

I'm flying back into Edmonton on KLM a week beforehand. Would have been nice to have proper pods versus the old bus class seats in the old 332.

Great news for Edmonton, though!

Rocket252 · #**258** Posted **May 13, 2024, 8:10 PM**

Is there code sharing between WestJet and KLM on WestJet flights to YEG? Would this help in filling the extra KLM flights

LO 044 · #**259** Posted **May 14, 2024, 4:27 AM**

Well there is code sharing but it's a one way street so to speak with only one airline and of course its not WestJet. You have to book your ticket with KLM to connect through YEG to get to Europe and to connect through YEG to get back home. KL has put it's code on WestJet operated flights. WestJet does not do the same.

As for the upgraded schedule that is quite a jump in seats per week. I'm surprised but it is great news. I'm assuming KL's 330's are finally going to be retired.

Rocket252 · #**260** Posted **May 14, 2024, 12:11 PM**

^ Yes I am seeing that by for example booking a flight from Fort Mac to AMS. There is still the prevailing option of connecting through YYC while some days we do see the second option as connecting through YEG. Maybe this will change in some way with additional code sharing on Westjets side. Or possibly the tweaking of connecting flight schedules to feed more traffic for these additional KLM flights. In this way KLM gets more passengers to fill its new flights and WestJet gets more traffic on its domestic routes to YEG plus still keeping its own long international flights based in YYC.

There had to be discussions between KLM, WestJet and EIA on this.