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Old Posted Jun 5, 2010, 10:52 PM
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^^^ I had a dream last night that the two motels in that project already exist and that they were made of that hilariously bad 60's brick with huge rectangles of lava rock randomly embedded in the side... Yes I am a complete architecture/urban dork and dream about these things...
haha, that would look better then the schlock they are proposing. At least we know the motels will not be clad in EFIS, as its illegal in Chicago.


I am going to go ahead and guess this won't be the final site plan. I have faith that one of those motel buildings will be pulled closer to 87th Street.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 4:08 AM
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First, let's put this development in context. It's a former industrial area—now all big-box retail—surrounded by railroads. This project is primarily a reuse of the former L'Oreal factory:


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It actually appears that the parking is rather modest for a megachurch, so perhaps they've arranged with the cineplex or Home Depot for shared parking on Sunday mornings or it's not actually that large a congregation. Is it realistic to expect structured parking for such a church, or for a Holiday Inn Express?

Now the flippant response is to simply assume away part of the design problem and say that people should be arriving here by transit or walking. But this is not the Palmer House; this is not a Polish parish church whose members live within the sound of its bells. How realistic is transit use for family-oriented motels next to the Dan Ryan? For the workers or visitors to an assisted-living facility? For dropoff and pickup at a day-care center two blocks from Nat King Cole Park? And especially for an African-American church whose members are mostly middle-aged and elderly women who live all over the South Side and south suburbs? Have you ever seen how African-American women dress for church? What are the chances that they're going to walk along the Dan Ryan frontage road all the way from the Red Line Station on a winter Sunday morning?

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^ Is the new Fellowship Lane coincident with the Wentworth Avenue alignment, or east of it?


By the way, a Lowe's and Home Depot across the street from each other? Doesn't that violate some law of physics?

(More curiously, did Lowe's choose to orient their roof signage towards MDW aircraft flyways?)
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 4:47 PM
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There was never a Wentworth ROW in this area, so Fellowship Lane is probably entirely on the church's property, east of the quarter-section line. More or less in line with Wentworth, though.

Lowe's and Home Depot? One for women, one for men.
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First, let's put this development in context. It's a former industrial area—now all big-box retail—surrounded by railroads. This project is primarily a reuse of the former L'Oreal factory:


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It looks like the retail and office building are reusing the existing building(s), with the church building added to the north end of it. The shape looks similar to whats on the google map photo.

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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 9:22 PM
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It looks like the retail and office building are reusing the existing building(s), with the church building added to the north end of it. The shape looks similar to whats on the google map photo.
Wow, nice catch, they definitely are re-using that building. Kudos on sustainability!
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^ Yeah I guess that does seem to lend some redeeming virtue to the project.
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^ Yeah I guess that does seem to lend some redeeming virtue to the project.
There's nothing virtuous about it.
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I believe I meant merit.
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I should hope a church has some virtue.
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Hope to get some pictures tomorrow but the Ritz Residences construction is well above ground now, at least above the height of the scaffold enclosure.
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I don't entirely loathe big-box developments in the city because they contribute a lot of tax revenue that otherwise goes to the suburbs. A big box-style church, on the other hand...
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^ Virtue, merit, big-box church ... however you refer to it, it'll be a peculiar coexistence with the next-door movieplex. After the word of scripture on Saturday evenings or Sunday mornings, proceed next door to hear the word of Hollywood later that same day.
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Some small congregations actually rent out a screen in a cineplex and hold services there. Sunday mornings aren't the busiest time for moviegoers, and you can have some popcorn and Pepsi with your preachin'!
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Will giant eye sculpture lure tourists?
By A. Pawlowski, CNN
June 7, 2010 7:41 a.m. EDT


http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/06/07/chicago.eyeball.sculpture/index.html?hpt=C2

(CNN) -- Tourists are used to staring at unusual attractions, but visitors in Chicago, Illinois, will soon have one staring right back at them in a big way.

EYE, a three-story tall "incredibly lifelike" sculpture of an eyeball, will go on display in July in the city's Pritzker Park as part of a celebration of public art in the Loop, Chicago's business district.

The three-dimensional installation, complete with a blue iris, was created by contemporary artist Tony Tasset...

...EYE will be on display from July 7 through October. Perhaps appropriately, it ends its run on Halloween.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/06/07...ex.html?hpt=C2
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That's not a tourist attraction, it's just an eye-sore.
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That makes my eyes hurt.
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WTF?

Maybe next year they will go with something a little less creepy...like a giant tit.
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So, what are we going to call the giant eyeball? Iris?
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WTF?

Maybe next year they will go with something a little less creepy...like a giant tit.
So funny you should say that.. scheduled for Summer 2012: 'Enormous Cock n Balls!'
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