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Another luxury hotel in San Francisco has run afoul of its lenders.


New York developer Millennium Partners LLC, which owns the 277-room Four Seasons San Francisco hotel, didn't make payments in May and June on the hotel's $90 million securitized mortgage in a bid to compel the loan's special servicer to rework its terms. Millennium, which mortgaged the hotel in 2007, confirmed in a statement on Monday that it withheld the payments.

"In order to commence discussions with the debt holders of the Four Seasons Hotel in San Francisco, Millennium Partners has strategically withheld payment of debt service," the statement reads. "Conversations on restructuring the debt have begun, and Millennium Partners is hopeful that they will result in a positive outcome."

The Four Seasons delinquency comes on the heels of lender Barclays Capital in May putting the 390-room Stanford Court hotel in San Francisco into receivership because of a default of the hotel's $90 million mortgage. Stanford Court operates under Marriott International Inc.'s Renaissance brand.

Many hotels aren't generating enough cash flow in this recession to make interest payments on their mortgages. To wit, the delinquency rate on securitized mortgages with hotels pledged as collateral was 4.3% in June, up from 0.5% a year earlier, according to Trepp LLC. At the Four Seasons San Francisco, the problem was declining cash flow and slumping value, according to Realpoint LLC, a credit-rating agency. Realpoint estimates that the hotel's value, appraised at $135 million upon the origination of its mortgage in 2007, has declined to $80 million this year, well below its mortgage balance.
Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1247..._and_investing

So what I'm wondering is whether this effects people who own condos in the building and, if so, how. At the very least, I'd suspect if the hotel is in trouble the hotel services that are supposed to be available to condo owners might get a little ragged. I'm finling this under "Further perils of combining commercial and residential uses in the same building".
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BART does serve the function for city residents of providing rail transit to those places--the Mission, Glen Park--that happen to be on the line, so it does have a minor intra-city role.
For what it's worth, I understand that Balboa Park is the busiest non-downtown station in the system.
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I am not an engineer, but with that said, I think BART is over engineered. Having a motor under each car does not make sense to me.

Last year I sat in a car with a hard floor and was fascinated and amazed to see a paper clip on the floor standing on end! The magnetic field from the motor under the car caused the paper clip to stand on end between stations.
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American fury as Foster grabs $120m San Francisco job
14 July, 2009 | By Robbie Blakeley



Foster + Partners has angered three ‘local’ firms by winning the stimulus-backed renovation of a historic San Francisco landmark

The decision to select a British firm to renovate 50 United Nations Plaza has provoked controversy as the project was made possible by the $130 billion federal stimulus fund for building renovation and construction.

Martin Bovill, vice president of development at Hornberger & Worstell (H & W), one of the firms that missed out, said: ‘You’d think that it would make sense to keep the money here rather than send it overseas. It’s not like you’re in Timbuktu. You have very well-qualified firms in the city with experience in San Francisco historic preservation.’

Firms involved in the losing bids - SOM, Architectural Resources Group with HKS, and Hornberger & Worstell with William McDonough - have offices in San Francisco.

The Recovery Act that guides stimulus spending does not state that design and construction work must go to American firms, only that the building materials such as steel have to be produced in the states.

A spokesperson for the General Services Administration (GSA), which manages most federal buildings, said: ‘We chose the best bid based on the qualitative factors mandated by the Brooks Act and look forward to moving through the negotiations process with ELS and discovering how much work will be done by local contractors and how many jobs will be created in the Bay Area.’

A six-story, 32,000m² Beaux-Arts building, 50 United Nations Plaza was designed in 1936 by Arthur Brown Jr, who was also behind San Francisco’s City Hall. The building has been vacant since 2007.

The GSA said the project aims to give the building a: ‘seismic upgrade and new electrical, heating, and plumbing systems. Windows will be replaced, elevators improved, and hazardous materials abated. The building will be changed to comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act. The interior spaces will also be reconfigured in order to make it more efficient office space.’

Foster & Partners declined to comment.

In a previous statement, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said ‘the decision to restore the beautiful 50 United Nations Plaza Federal Building is good news for San Francisco, for the Civic Center area, and for our city’s economy.’

‘Renovating this building, improving its energy efficiency, and making it more accessible for people with disabilities will create and save jobs for San Franciscans.’
Source: http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/a...204668.article

Foster & Partners. Hmmm. Guess we'll get a quality job. Count me one San Franciscan who isn't bothered by that idea.

Note: A comment in the Socketsite bit on this points out that this is a similar project Foster did in Britain: http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Pro...8/Default.aspx

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I read that yesterday and had two thoughts:

1. The architecture fees can't be all that much compared to the contractors' fees, which will likely go to local firms.

2. Given that the project calls for seismic upgrade, new mechanicals and windows, improved elevators, ramps, etc to comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act and reconfigured office space, it's not like they are going to change the look of the building from the outside. So it won't result in some landmark that firms would be known for instantly.

Then I read something on SocketSite about needing a local firm who will write up the actual contracts and thus keep most of the fees anyway. Given all that, why are some firms making such an issue of this project going to Foster?
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II read something on SocketSite about needing a local firm who will write up the actual contracts and thus keep most of the fees anyway. Given all that, why are some firms making such an issue of this project going to Foster?
I doubt Foster has an architectural license in CA so he will need a local partner who does. Also, they will certainly need a seismic engineering sub and some other specialists.

If you looked at that Royal Treasury building he renovated, reminds me a lot of Gai Aulenti's work on the Asian Art Museum--the glassed over light wells, opened up interior walls and all. Wonder if he'll be doing that sort of thing here. A budget of $120 million is about 2/3 what I recall the Asian renovation costing.
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From the San Mateo shoreline near Foster City. I thought it was an interesting perspective.

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Nice shot. I like angles that integrate ORH with the rest of the skyline.
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Houston's Hines exits skyscraper project


HOUSTON — Houston real estate developer Hines Interests and its partners plan to surrender a 43-story San Francisco skyscraper to their lenders.

The joint venture of Hines and Sterling American Property Inc., its New York-based partner on the building, will "exercise its right to deed" 333 Bush St. to its lenders, said Kim Jagger, a Hines spokeswoman.

Denis Couture, a spokesman for mortgage-holder Brookfield Real Estate Finance, said his company and Munich Hypo Bank are preparing to foreclose on the building.

The building is one of 15 San Francisco office properties listed as distressed by Real Capital Analytics Inc., which tracks commercial real estate sales.

Hines-Sterling paid $281 million for the property in 2007. A law firm that had been the tower's anchor tenant declared bankruptcy in December.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2009, 7:28 PM
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If you're interested, there's a lot more detail on 333 Bush posted here.
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Robert Moses vs Jane Jacobs article

In case anyone missed it, there's an interesting John King article in yesterday's Chronicle on Jane Jacobs: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DDUV18TS78.DTL

Someone posted this comment: " 'A decade later, she was the nation's strongest voice explaining why healthy cities need old buildings'. What a pity that the Willie Brown & Gavin Newsom eras of San Francisco governance completely and contemptuously ignored Jane Jacobs' sage advice, in their headlong rush to let their developer pals turn as much of the city as physically possible into a clone of Manhattan. Concrete canyons with freezing cold Bay winds channeled through them. How inviting!"....

To which I replied: "Regarding comments lamenting our “concrete canyons”: far too many NIMBYS evoke the name of Jane Jacobs. Our main trouble is not the possibility that we'll morph into New York City. It's that we'll squander the unusually abundant opportunities we've been given to build a truly superb city. Jane Jacobs was, above all, an advocate for cities being CITIES (as distinct from farms, parks, tiny villages, or suburban planned mediocrities.) San Francisco was originally planned and built to be a CITY... and has been backpedaling away from that status ever since the early 1980s.

I sometimes disagree with John King's perspective, but he's certainly right when he says "...Jacobs' quest for "thoughtful citizen involvement" has morphed into "all-powerful neighborhood residents, who seek conditions to stay exactly as they are and reward politicians who agree with them." So many blocks of the City are a crumbling mess because our predominate civic ethic has become: Not In MY Back Yard!"
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S.F. seeks a ‘super dorm’
City, schools struggle with student housing

San Francisco Business Times - by J.K. Dineen

When Menlo Capital Group Managing Partner Karan Suri decided to convert an empty former tourist hotel at 851 California St. to student housing, he knew there was a long-simmering need in San Francisco.

But he had no idea how dire the situation was. Within a week, nearly half of the building’s 100 beds had been leased by students with proof of enrollment in a San Francisco college or university.

“We already have 40 desperate students, and we have not started marketing to the schools yet,” said Suri. “It will be fully leased in the next three weeks. The desperation knocked my socks off.”

Suri said rents are $800-$950 per person for a double and $1100-$1300 for a single.

The reaction has prompted Menlo Capital to join the growing group of institutions, housing advocates, city officials and private developers hoping to address the growing need for a place for San Francisco’s students to live. The city’s 31 universities and colleges enroll 82,000 full-time students and 13,100 full-time faculty, according to a study by Grubb & Ellis. Nine of the schools provide some housing, for a total of 8,869 beds. That is roughly one bed for every 10 students.

A taskforce is looking at possible incentives to help make student housing a reality in San Francisco. The group includes the Housing Action Coalition and administrators from California College of the Arts, UC Hastings College of the Law, San Francisco State and other schools. Capstone Development, which has built 31,000 beds on 54 campuses across the country, is actively looking at possible development sites. The Mayor’s Office of Housing has also been involved in discussions.

Thus far most of the talk has focused on the concept of a “super dorm,” where a developer builds a large dorm that is then leased by multiple educational institutions. In Chicago, a number of institutions collaborated on a 1,750-bed super dorm, and similar projects have also been built in other markets. The problem is that San Francisco’s 15 percent affordable housing requirements makes building affordable housing to struggling students economically infeasible: Dorm rents would have to cover the cost of the affordable units.

Students have been traditionally excluded from affordable housing programs because their economic status is so difficult to assess. Many students have little or no income but ample parental support; others are on their own and surviving on a combination of student loans and wages,

“It’s like building low-income housing without any subsidies,” said David Meckel, CCA’s director of research and planning.

Doug Shoemaker, director of Mayor Gavin Newsom’s housing program, said “we are absolutely interested in trying to encourage the student housing movement to go forward. ... We understand that there is a need for student house and we get that it’s a category of housing that doesn’t fit well within the inclusionary housing ordinance.”

Shoemaker said several supervisors have expressed interest in sponsoring legislation that would facilitate student housing, but cautioned that the bill would be carefully crafted so it doesn’t become a loophole for market-rate housing developers looking to avoid affordable housing requirements.

“You don’t want to create a new problem to solve an old one,” said Shoemaker.

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Capstone Senior Vice President Dan Howard, who lives in San Francisco, said third-party student housing development generally requires some public-private partnership. At Arizona State University, Capstone developed 1,300 beds in two 13-story towers. There the city donated some of the land and helped expedite the entitlement process.

“We think there is a real need for housing. The real issue is what can students pay for rent and the cost and uncertainty of developing in a place like San Francisco,” said Howard. “There has to be some effort to reduce overall costs — whether that is cheaper financing, cheaper land, or a cheaper cost of construction, or higher density.”

Tim Colen, executive director of the Housing Action Coalition, said student housing should be a policy priority for the city because it would free up thousands of large flats students occupy from the Richmond to the Mission to the Haight. By moving students to more affordable dorms, larger units would be freed up for families, seniors and working professionals.

“The purpose was to get many, many thousands of students off of Craigslist and into housing the schools could provide,” said Colen. “You can’t argue that students don’t occupy a lot of family-sized housing units.”

Hurting recruitment

Meckel said the lack of housing hinders recruitment. CCA has 250 beds for 1,700 students, including 90 beds at the Julia Morgan YWCA in downtown Oakland. CCA also has 12 students at the UCSF dorm in Mission Bay.

“These small schools add a lot of energy to the economy and not having housing is a roadblock to getting the best talent to relocate here,” said Meckel. “Everybody is a little frustrated with our inability to do this. We certainly don’t need to be able to house everybody, but you like to be able to house the incoming class as they get settled.”

Hastings houses 280 students out of a total of 1,250, most of them at 100 McAllister St. The school has a waiting list for another 100 units, according to CFO David Seward.

“It’s a very competitive higher-education segment and this time of year everybody scurries around at the last minute trying to nest in a desirable school,” said Seward. “The market here doesn’t allow that. We book up in May. For kids making their final decision right now on where to go to school the housing options in San Francisco are very daunting. We have kids commuting in from Livermore.”

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For anybody liking this idea and seeking an investment, there are at least 2 publicly traded REITs that also develop third party student housing.
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As painful as it’s been for San Francisco housing developers — and it’s been just brutal — the swollen inventory of new construction condos is suddenly looking a bit thin.

First you have Intracorp’s 128-unit Hayes, which sold out a few weeks ago. Then there is the Montgomery at 74 New Montgomery St., which has nine units available. Meanwhile, two Mission Bay projects are cooking. Intracorp’s 269-unit Arterra is down to 60 units and Bosa Development’s 99-unit Radiance Phase One has 12 condos left. Finally, Tishman Speyer’s Infinity has had 12 straight weeks in which nine units or more have closed.

Of course, no developers are meeting their pro formas these days. But when you have construction loans to pay off, sometimes you have to cut your losses and move on. As Bosa development CEO Nat Bosa said recently: “There is no use in kidding around here — my first phase is costing me a hell of a lot of money out of my pocket.”

Still, should sales continue at the current clip, inventory under $1 million will be scarce by early next year. That could be good news for Jackson Pacific’s 165-unit One Hawthorne St. when it opens a year from now.

Alan Mark of the Mark Co., which is handling sales and marketing for the Arterra, the Montgomery, the Hayes, and One Hawthorne, does not expect prices to rise any time soon. But he said developers are gaining some leverage to negotiate reductions and concessions.
Source: http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/...wscolumn1.html

Time to get some new stuff underway?
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Like ORH phase 2? I know I'm dreaming. Good news for One Hawthorne though
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just hope things go well enough for bosa that he actually decides to start radiance II.
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oh and someone should mention to the biz journal columnists that the plural of pro forma is pro formis. haha no thats way too nerdy.
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Well, the piles are sitting there ready to go. If materials costs come down enough, maybe they will.
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By the way, I noticed today 2 "Webcore Builders" signs have gone up at the PUC site at Golden Gate & Polk but still no building permit posted that I can see. I'm still hopeful. They are working like crazy on the foundation. Hard to believe they are doing all they are doing--essentially building a nice reinforced hole--if they aren't planning to proceed.
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Great! Post some pictures. The last ones I saw were of the demo.
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