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Originally Posted by Docere
Toronto has the most "diverse" far right in North America.
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There are individual far right politicians (eg. Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley) and famous political commentators (eg. Dinesh D'Souza, Michelle Malkin) who are visible minority and this can even be seen outside North America (eg. the Czech half-Japanese descent far right politician that was very anti-immigrant), but interestingly enough there aren't any that I can think of in Canada (what's the most right-wing visible minority Canadian politician or major cultural figure of the right? Canada's got lots of South Asians but no version of Jindal or D'Souza) yet ironically in terms of support base from the populace it's got the most "diverse" far right as you put it than most other western countries, more than those other places that
do have non-white far right politicians.
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Originally Posted by Docere
In the US there are enough white evangelicals and hyper nationalists and natives in the so-called red states that they don't.
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Regarding hyper-nationalists and nativists, and the diversity of the "far right"
theoretically, you could have say a movement of African-American nativists saying "American first" and being opposed to later-arriving minorities (be they Hispanic, Asian, or newer African arrivals) but how often do you see that happen? African Americans were even less pro-Trump than Hispanics and Asians I think, even though, the "birther" thing aside, nativism is targeted way more at the latter (most African Americans are native born but still, many seem to have sympathy with non-native born minorities who are targets of racial animus).
I don't even know if you can call those Chinese Markham residents claiming to "defend" their town from refugees nativists since a lot of them sound like they didn't grow up there to begin with. If native born multi-generational American minorities like African Americans don't really often express anti-refugee sentiment, how is it that these Chinese Markham residents, who might be targets of nativism literally not even a generation ago, already start acting like nativists towards "their town" (oh, I guess Markham's big enough to be a city now, not just a town) so quickly.
Those Chinese in Markham holding the banners telling refugees to go home are more like Italian or Irish Americans who argue "we were the good immigrants who assimilated, came legally etc." when discussing illegal immigrants, but would the Chinese in California, in NYC act that way towards say the central American refugees?
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Originally Posted by Docere
Another possibility is there isn't really an "Asian umbrella" in Canada to the degree there is in the US.
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A while back you had brought it up in the thread on whites leaving Asian ethnoburbs, and most people had really strong feelings about it for some reason and argued that pan-Asian identity did not exist at all in the US. I (and at least another Canadian poster I think) did bring up that as Canadians, by comparison we noticed young student/activist Asian Americans being a bit more unified than their Canadian counterparts, on university campuses, so some "pan-Asian-ness" even if very weak is present stateside etc.
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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin
The multiculturalism vs melting pot thing is very much overblown and doesn't have much of a discernible difference on the ground. That said, the existence of Conservative-voting immigrants in Canada wouldn't really contradict that even if it weren't. These aren't immigrants assimilating into conservative Canadian culture anymore than immigrants Stateside might assimilate into Democrat American culture - they're coming from places that are already conservative in their own way, and are simply transposing those politics into their Canadian equivalent.
Whether they're going to Canada or the US, immigrants from a given place aren't going to be too politically divergent. But given the binary, polarized political landscape of the US - and the fact that the right-wing party is often outright racist - immigrants and ethnic minorities be tend to become Democrats by default. In Canada, it's just a bit easier for right-leaning immigrants to vote along ideological lines than ethnic ones.
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But the fact that immigrants to Canada vote along ideological lines vs. those to the US voting along ethnic ones is kind of some sort of "assimilation" you could argue in both cases, because they're assimilating into the political culture of their new home.
In the US, the new immigrants "assimilate" to the idea of the "ethnic bloc" or voting along ethnic lines because they pick up the ideas about identity politics from the locals. They might not have had to think too much about identity politics in their homelands where they might have been the demographic majorities. In Canada, they might pick up on other cues. But there's still some "learning" from the locals as to what the political talking points are.