The 21 most influential cities in the world - Page 12

iheartthed · #**221** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:29 PM**

Is Des Moines the new Jacksonville?

iheartthed · #**222** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by pico44

Oh stop. You can do the same things in Des Moines that you can in Chicago. You can go to an art museum, the theater, a restaurant, a concert. If you have data that shows that per capita cultural consumption is higher in Chicago, then present it. Otherwise you're talking out of your rear end; and, of course, participating in the grand ol' Chicago tradition of inserting yourself with larger cities and shitting on anyone below.

Des Moines, while I'm sure is a nice place, probably has a museum. Chicago has museums. The difference between big cities and not-so-big cities is variety, whether that be food, jobs, transportation, housing type, people, etc.

Steely Dan · #**223** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

Is Des Moines the new Jacksonville?

well, it's skyline is more impressive than toronto's too, so yeah, i guess.

source: http://laurasquiltatelier.nl/19236-2/

Crawford · #**224** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Baronvonellis

In reality most corporate jobs could be done anywhere.

That's not reality. It's you rationalizing why others don't have similar preferences as yourself.

Sun Belt · #**225** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

Is Des Moines the new Jacksonville?

Des Moines does have a nice skyline for it's size.

MonkeyRonin · #**226** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt

Des Moines does have a nice skyline for it's size.

It's better than Jacksonville's!

Sun Belt · #**227** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

It's better than Jacksonville's!

Oh, don't go there. I've read that Jacksonville rivals Toronto! [must be true, right?]

dubu · #**228** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:32 PM**

thats the crappiest skyline ive ever seen and i live in bend. thats not really the skyline is it? you guys are silly. ive heard Des Moines sucks but thats a whole new level.

im not into tall skyscrapers, i like a nice city though

Steely Dan · #**229** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by dubu

thats the crappiest skyline ive ever seen and i live in bend.

ah yes, the might skyline of bend.

i'm generally not one to sing the praises of smaller mid-tier midwest city skylines, but bend makes des moines look like manhattan.

i don't think bend even has a single building over 10 stories.

dubu · #**230** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

ah yes, the might skyline of bend.

i'm generally not one to sing the praises on smaller mid-tier midwest city skylines, but bend makes des moines look like manhattan.

i don't think bend even has a single building over 10 stories.

well since i live in bend i assumed old cities of the midwest would look nice.

im from portland too were the skyline is way better, i always thought oregon was lacking but nope

in short i need to get out more but i dont have money Des. Des Moines get it, hehe

Steely Dan · #**231** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by dubu

well since i live in bend i assumed old cities of the midwest would look nice.

i think the des moines skyline looks pretty damn good for a city of its size.

it even has a building over 600' tall, which is kind of a big deal for a US metro area of only ~650K.

not even portland can make that claim.

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Originally Posted by dubu

im from portland too were the skyline is way better

portland (MSA 2.4 million) is in an entirely different class of city than a place like des moines (MSA 650K).

size-wise, portland more closely aligns with midwest cities like cleveland, columbus, cincinnati, indianapolis, st. louis, kansas city, and milwuakee.

Sun Belt · #**232** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

i think the des moines skyline looks pretty damn good for a city its size.

it even has a building over 600' tall, which is kind of a big deal for a US metro area of only ~650K.

not even portland can make that claim.

A new 600 footer is a big deal and would be gladly accepted in every city as a sign of current and future economic vitality.

Boisebro · #**233** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 9:44 PM**

I've always been impressed with Des Moines' skyline. same goes for Little Rock--both Des Moines and Little Rock are virtually identical in population to Boise, but have much taller, more established and impressive skylines.

I'd be thrilled with a 500-600 footer in Boise some day, but I'm not holding my breath.

dubu · #**234** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:00 PM**

you guys are on a skyscraper forum in 2018 saying that city looks amazing? ive smoked too much weeds

Boisebro · #**235** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by dubu

you guys are on a skyscraper forum in 2018 saying that city looks amazing? ive smoked too much weeds

for its size.

it's all about context.

and stop smoking. I'm down wind.

Steely Dan · #**236** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by dubu

you guys are on a skyscraper forum in 2018 saying that city looks amazing?

no, i didn't say that des moines' skyline is "amazing".

i said that it looks pretty damn good FOR A CITY ITS SIZE.

which is a perfectly cromulent opinion to hold.

Centropolis · #**237** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

no, i didn't say that des moines' is "amazing".

i said that it looks pretty damn good FOR A CITY ITS SIZE.

which is a perfectly cromulent opinion to hold.

i raise you lexington, ky. smaller, and has real neighborhoods nuzzle right up to downtown with proper brick townhouses, PLUS an urban growth boundary. it also has something huge downtown under construction not seen in that photo.

wikipedia.com

dubu · #**238** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

no, i didn't say that des moines' is "amazing".

i said that it looks pretty damn good FOR A CITY ITS SIZE.

which is a perfectly cromulent opinion to hold.

i could see most people on here saying ya blew it to most of the cities in america

Steely Dan · #**239** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Centropolis

i raise you lexington, ky. smaller, and has real neighborhoods nuzzle right up to downtown with proper brick townhouses, PLUS an urban growth boundary. it also has something huge downtown under construction not seen in that photo.

not being very familiar with either des moines or lexington "on the ground", i'll take your word for it on the urban form tip.

and given the different pedigrees/ages of the two cities in question, that would make a lot sense.

but on a straight skyline comparison, i would put des moines pretty far ahead of lexington.

Centropolis · #**240** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

not being very familiar with either des moines or lexington "on the ground", i'll take your word for it on the urban form tip.

and given the different pedigrees/ages of the two cities in question, that would make a lot sense.

but on a straight skyline comparison, i would put des moines pretty far ahead of lexington.

yeah, certainly. i have family in old neighborhoods of lexington and it's nice to easily walk downtown under a tree canopy looking at quality 19th century housing. lexington specifically disallowed expressway construction downtown or in the core at all while my experiences in des moines are decidedly more car oriented but i did just find this... https://goo.gl/maps/GCryWzDHfMQ2

the big development downtown lexington was supposed to be a 30 story skyscraper but apparently was reduced down to whatever this is topped out. there were multiple developers and starts/stops...i've been looking at the hole for years.

wikipedia.com