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Originally Posted by JManc
55 is old?
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At 50 you can join AARP.
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Originally Posted by Jasoncw
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So imo, until "getting your first transit card" is part of the shared American experience in the same way that "getting your drivers license" is, I don't think we can say that urbanism is normalized.
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I grew up in rural Oregon in a town of 560 people, seven miles from the next biggest town. This was before transit cards, but some summers I commuted into Portland for work using transit, and certainly had no problem using transit. In fact I didn't want to get a car and didn't get my driver's license until my parents forced me to do it so I could drive my brothers places.
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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV
I wish the US would standardize on one transit card like the Netherlands has. Then I wouldn't have so many of them lying around my apartment...
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Lol, I have a bunch, too.
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Originally Posted by jtown,man
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Anecdotally all my conservative friends always bring up "man your apartment is so small" "why do you live in Norfolk/downtown" "you live in the ghetto?" all the time. The few that come over always end up loving it. I think our culture has been infested with MORE HOME BETTER...MORE SPACE BETTER....quantity over quality for so long that its hard for people to break this mindset. Liberals are much more likely to not have this view point. They are much more likely to not mind living in tight spaces. They are much more likely not to have 5 kids and a mini van and truck. They are more likely to be environmentally conscious. It just is what it is.
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I've never wanted a large home because it is so much work to maintain. I have occasionally wanted a yard of my own and an outbuilding/garage to do projects with. I could see buying a cheap place in a ghetto area just to have space for projects, but I can't really afford to live in the areas I want to live daily life and also have that extra space, so I continue to live in a downtown condo.
At the heart of it, liberals believe more strongly in the benefit of the group, conservatives believe that the group is a threat.
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Originally Posted by Obadno
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lol it would take years and billions in court battles just to get half of the cities on board let alone the country.
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Court battles? Who would sue who and to what end? I suspect it's simply a factor of limited demand for a national card to be worth the effort for most agencies. If someone came up with a system they could show reduced costs by standardizing, it could happen.
Toll passes are inter-operable pretty much everywhere East of the Mississippi, so it's not inconceivable that transit agencies consolidate fare collection around a universal standards at some point.