Great Lakes Cities

[MonkeyRonin]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

that looks like a great cozy little neighborhood place.

more importantly, how's the pizza?

That's one of my local neighbourhood pizza joints. It's a classic cash-only, family-run kinda place that hasn't changed in 30 years and is perfect when you get a craving for that cheap, greasy, old school North American pizza.





https://www.blogto.com/restaurants/bitondo/



There's certainly much better pizza in the neighbourhood though.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

nice.

that looks like my kinda pizza.



so it looks like we add toronto to the quality old school pizzeria list

and i can certainly vouch for chicago and milwaukee in that department.

how about them other great lakes cites? how's the old school pizza in detroit? cleveland? buffalo? hamilton? rochester?

[mrnyc]

old skool schmold skool fancy pants pizza at cleveland marottas


Pizza with spinach, Prosciutto, whole eggs, Parmigiano Reggiano and finished with truffle oil

[Evergrey]

Originally Posted by jd3189

The Great Lakes cities share some characteristics while still distinct. Even different parts of the Great Lakes are distinct. Toronto, Buffalo, Cleveland, and even Detroit are not as flat and more Eastern than Chicago, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis.

Buffalo is the flattest major city in America.

However, Buffalo has the quickest, best and most extensive access to ski country and topography of any Great Lakes city. Appalachia is only a half hour away.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

old skool schmold skool fancy pants pizza at cleveland marottas


Pizza with spinach, Prosciutto, whole eggs, Parmigiano Reggiano and finished with truffle oil

i'm sure that it's quite tasty, but that thing bears pretty much no resemblance to the pizza of my childhood that is so near and dear to my heart.

all of those friday night family pizza night dinners at our local neighborhood pizzeria (the royal chessman, sadly long gone) in suburban chicago.

cracker thin crust, retardedly over-fennelled sausage, tangy/sweet sauce, with just the right amount of golden brown cheese. my pizza heaven.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Toronto is like Jacksonville, but with a way worse skyline.



Toronto is unlike the other GL cities, by virtue of the zillions of skyscrapers throughout the metro region (much more like a giant Asian city in this regards, or for that matter, like Vancouver).

I commented on Jacksonville before my last quote

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

nice.

that looks like my kinda pizza.



so it looks like we add toronto to the quality old school pizzeria list

and i can certainly vouch for chicago and milwaukee in that department.

how about them other great lakes cites? how's the old school pizza in detroit? cleveland? buffalo? hamilton? rochester?

The square Detroit-style pizza is the new hipster craze here in Brooklyn. They are copying a version popularized by Buddy's:

[Steely Dan]

^ yeah, detroit style pizza is good too.

it's more similar to chicago deep dish than the chicago thin crust of my youth, but it's still qualifies as old school pizza because it's old school pizza.

detroit is in the old school pizza club.

(though we will have to deduct some pizza points for foisting little caesars upon the rest of the nation).

Originally Posted by iheartthed

The square Detroit-style pizza is the new hipster craze here in Brooklyn.

is there anything about detroit that hipsters won't gravitate towards?

now, if only more of them would get the hell out of brooklyn and go live in detroit, then world would be a better place.

[Antares41]

^ In the Bronx that was called a "Sicilian" pizza.

[Centropolis]

detroit style has corners. corners are the bomb

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by Antares41

^ In the Bronx that was called a "Sicilian" pizza.

or grandma pizza. i've made my own pretty tasty version, before. obvy you have to have time and patience to do the crust right.

that kind of pizza really starts blurring lines before people start raising fingers.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Antares41

^ In the Bronx that was called a "Sicilian" pizza.

There is a slight, but important, difference. Detroit style pizzas are baked inside an iron (?) pan, so that the edge of the crust gets a certain crispy texture at the very edge. Sicilian is similarly square but doesn't have the same crust texture. And I think they are just baked on a flat sheet like regular pizzas.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

There is a slight, but important, difference. Detroit style pizzas are baked inside an iron (?) pan, so that the edge of the crust gets a certain crispy texture at the very edge. Sicilian is similarly square but doesn't have the same crust texture.

good point...the "scrispy" corners on detroit style are integral.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

detroit style has corners. corners are the bomb

is st. louis style pizza "party cut" into squares like chicago style thin crust?

in chicago the little small triangles left over from the party cut are referred to as "corners" (even though the pizza is clearly round) and are highly sought after for their high edge crust ratio.

marriages and friendships have ended over the improper divying of the four corner pieces. they are special.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

now, if only more of them would get the hell out of brooklyn and go live in detroit, then world would be a better place.

It's happening, bro. Go into any of the hipster restaurants popping up in Detroit now and you'll easily find someone with a NYS ID hiding in their wallet.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

is st. louis style pizza "party cut" into squares like chicago style thin crust?

in chicago the little small triangles left over from the party cut are referred to as "corners" (even though the pizza is clearly round) and are highly sought after for their high edge crust ratio.

marriages and friendships have ended over the improper divying of the four corner pieces. they are special.

yes, st. louis style is basically bizarro chicago thin crust (with provel and a bit spicier and sweeter). detroit style i love corners. st. louis style i go for the viscera.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I commented on Jacksonville before my last quote

Seems to function as the American equivalent of Okotoks... but what's so bad about it? Urban renewal was particularly awful there from what I've heard, and the current skyline is pretty impressive. I'm passing there regularly, but I can't say I ever bothered to stop and explore. However the skyline looks nice when passing

[lio45]

Based on those pics, Milwaukee seems really nicer than Chicago.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by lio45

Seems to function as the American equivalent of Okotoks... but what's so bad about it?)

there's nothing bad about about jacksonville. it's all good.

jacksonville has the 3rd most impressive skyline on the continent.

it's even better than toronto's skyline.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

jacksonville has the 3rd most impressive skyline on the continent.

True. In North America, only Youngstown and Saskatoon top the glories of the Jacksonville skyline.